New VideoOut (Dshow9 DV) - Node

hello.

any experiences with this? i tried to record a dv out stream with my canon mv30i camcorder, but i dong get any signal. is that node working for anyone? some special settings to get it working?

cheers
ele

no one ever tried that?

i just had a look myself and it’s not working. i tried several weird combinations and v4 is not sending anything via the DV. while adobe premiere can send and recieve video, v4 does only recieve. he devs, whats the purpose of the DV node?

sory. forgot to mention somewhere: you need to connect the compress (DShow9) node before the videoout (dv) node and set to dv-compression.

that should do it. and make sure you are not using the same cam in any other program or a videoin node!

just tried that…no luck

i tried feeding in a filestream and a live videoinput from another source. both show up in the videoout node but nothing happens via the videoout(DV) node. although the DV node says it finds a ‘microsoft DV cam and VCR’ …which also shows up in premiere. when i select the DV cam as an videoinput source i can even open the property page and remote control all functions of the cam.

did u actually test this node and if so which cam did u use…maybe my panasonic NV-GS4000 is picky…although i doubt that as premiere seems to have no problems.

elektromeier…which cam did u try?

…one question, does the videostream need to be in PAL resolution ?

ps: just a random guess, premiere only sends video when played or scrubbed…maybe v4 needs to send some play command to the microsft DV cam API

seconds later…update

i just fed in a DV recorded video via filestream and it shows up on the cam . my conclusion is the video needs to be in correct DV resolution.

BUT: filestream is loosing all it’s functionality when feeding a DV video directly into the videooutDV node…seeking and looping don’t work. it keeps on playing the stuff. feeding something else through the compress node still gives no results. and testing DX9 texture through AsVideo to videooutDV simply crashes vvvv. erm…freeframe altered stuff does the same.

heeh. nkayy. seems we have a problem there.

i’ve tested with a sony dcr-trv80e. the stream doesn’t need to be in pal resolution. the compressor will scale any content to dv-resolution.

one additional thing though: make sure on the compressor settings page you select NTSC or PAL according to your camcorders format. else it won’t work. PAL should be default though.

also tested with AsVideo. i am on winxp sp2 and i’d say i have the basic system-provided dv-encoder. could be that some software (premiere?!) installs a different encoder that works differently…in your compressor node can you choose between different dv-encoders?

i tried both options…ntsc /pal…no difference

it’s sometimes hard to evaluate if its just not working or the video engine in v4 crashed. while experimenting with video it happens quite often that the video engine stops working (DX9 works but Video stays black whatever i do) …only restarting v4 solves this problem.

i’m going to check the dv-encoder option but what about the weird filestream behaviour when streaming a DV avi to the videoout(DV) node. do you experience the same bug (Loop & Seek don’t work) ?

( Windows XP SP2, P4 3.4 Ghz, ATI X800, 1GB RAM)

hello.

i tried it with my cam (u7angel: its a canon mvx30i a small singlechip camcorder with dv in and out) but no luck, no crashes but also no picture on the camdisplay. it seems that i have a the standard windows dv codec installed.

the tty renderer tels more when i connect to the video out node:

00:06:39 : Connecting from: AsVideo (EX9.Texture).Video to: Compress (DShow9).Video Input
00:06:39 : ds connect from: Out to: XForm In
00:06:39 : Es wurden keine Zwischenfilter für die Herstellung der Verbindung gefunden.
00:06:39 * : Failed connecting Pins
00:07:12 : Connecting from: AsVideo (EX9.Texture).Video to: Compress (DShow9).Video Input
00:07:12 : ds connect from: Out to: XForm In
00:07:12 : Es wurden keine Zwischenfilter für die Herstellung der Verbindung gefunden.
00:07:12 * : Failed connecting Pins
00:07:12 * : Adding node to filtergraph: VideoOut (DShow9 DV)
00:07:12 : Connecting from: Compress (DShow9).Video Output to: VideoOut (DShow9 DV).Video
00:07:12 : ds connect from: XForm Out to: Stream 0
00:07:14 : Es wurden keine Zwischenfilter für die Herstellung der Verbindung gefunden.
00:07:14 * : Failed connecting Pins
00:07:16 ERR : Es wurden keine Zwischenfilter für die Herstellung der Verbindung gefunden.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.
00:07:16 ERR : Das Gerät wurde entfernt.

what is that zwischenfilder thing? u7angel, what says your tty renderer?

concerning the missing seek-features of the filestream when connected to the VideoOut (DV): seems to be a problem with the dv-cam dictating the directshowgraphs clock. mm. even changing the clock via filestream (inspektor!) doesn’t help here…which leaves no clue for me how to change that…

and ele: even a filestream with an dv-encoded file doesn’T work? (in that case you don’t need the extra compress node)

@joreg:
no doesnt work either, have just tried it. this is the result:

00:00:36 * : Adding node to filtergraph: VideoOut (DShow9 DV)
00:00:36 : Connecting from: FileStream (DShow9).Video to: VideoOut (DShow9 DV).Video
00:00:36 * : nil pins can not be connected in directshow graph
00:00:36 ERR : Es wurden keine Zwischenfilter für die Herstellung der Verbindung gefunden.
00:00:36 ERR : Die Anforderung wird nicht unterstützt.

maybe there is just some directshow stuff missing on my machine? does it need some aditional filters to be installed?

nothing special needed. if the video-out node shows your camera on the Driver pin it should work.

concerning the “Zwischenfilter”: the only filter that should be inserted is a dv-muxer that comes with windows. you can check for the presence of this filter with mediaplayer classic (view-options-filters-overrides-addfilter->shows a list of available filters) or graphedit.

anybody who gets this to work except me?