Possibilites with vvvv

Hello all. I’m new here. I’ve been messing around with vvvv for a couple of weeks now. I’m getting the basics down. i’m beginning my PhD research in the fall and i’m determining which object oriented software to use. I’ve narrowed it down to PD/Gem and vvvv. I much prefer vvvv at this point. I know that vvvv doesn’t ‘do’ much audio, which is perfectly fine to me. I much prefer to keep my audio composing and video composing separate.

A brief rundown of what i need from vvvv:

I’ll be composing my audio tracks in Bidule. Instead of bouncing down/combining the separate audio tracks that make up the composition, i’d like to bring in each of the audio tracks separately into vvvv. So say i have 5 audio tracks that make up the composition. I’d like to load each of the 5 audio tracks into their own audio/mp3 player nodes.

Then, i would shoot 5 different DV clips, trying to capture the visual feeling of each of the 5 audio tracks. I’d then like to load each of the 5 DV clips into vvvv.

Ulitmately, i would like to have each of the 5 audio tracks ‘effecting’ it’s corresponding DV clip.

Here’s my question:

Is it possible in vvvv to combine/bounce down (possibly with the need to do it in realtime) the video clips so that they all render at once, onto the same screen? (all of the video clips would be mixed onto a single screen)
I’m trying to achieve a single video composition that is ‘controlled/effected’ by the audio composition.

Finally, is it possible to ‘embed’ the audio track(all 5 combined audio tracks) with the combined video tracks? So that the final project-both audio and video together-could be opened as a single file in a media player and listen/watched at the same time?

thanks so much!

jared

Is it possible in vvvv to combine/bounce down (possibly with the need to do it in realtime) the video clips so that they all render at once, onto the same screen? (all of the video clips would be mixed onto a single screen)
I’m trying to achieve a single video composition that is ‘controlled/effected’ by the audio composition.

in theory this what vvvv is made for. just render them into the same renderer. note that in real life you will not be able to smoothly play back 5 dv streams. most people are very happy if they can play back 2. if you have a fast machine and/or can live with low resolutions and/or fast codecs and/or compose all videos into a grid in a one large video there might be scenarios where this works. i dont know you material, but if you get all video frames into your ram everything will incredibly easy and flexible

the realtime audio effecting thing is no problem at all, as this can mostly be done in the graphic card.

Finally, is it possible to ‘embed’ the audio track(all 5 combined audio tracks) with the combined video tracks? So that the final project-both audio and video together-could be opened as a single file in a media player and listen/watched at the same time?

you will not be able to playback vvvv patches your mediaplayer. but you can just doubleclick the patch and run it in vvvv.

of course you can record the video output of your graphic card with some device and burn that onto a dvd. offline rendering is also somehow possible, but not fully trivial. tonfilm has some patches for this on his user page.

“note that in real life you will not be able to smoothly play back 5 dv streams”

well, it the DV footage won’t be live streams…they’ll be pre-recorded DV clips…that shouldn’t be as cpu intesive, right?

“the realtime audio effecting thing is no problem at all, as this can mostly be done in the graphic card”

what do you mean can be done in the graphics card? when i say i want the audio to effect the image, i mean within vvvv…is this what you mean? sorry for the beginner questions!

thanks for your help oschatz!

jared

“well, it the DV footage won’t be live streams…they’ll be pre-recorded DV clips…that shouldn’t be as cpu intesive, right?”

I think oschatz meant “DV streams playing from your harddisk”, not a live camera feed ;-)

To play 5 streams simultaniously causes heavy load on your harddisk, however it might be possible if you try this with a fast RAID 0 setup… The other bottleneck would be how much and what type of “effects” you will apply to each video layer… give it a try and see how much load your system can handle…